{"id":339,"date":"2012-09-12T00:45:53","date_gmt":"2012-09-12T07:45:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/?p=339"},"modified":"2012-09-22T00:08:00","modified_gmt":"2012-09-22T07:08:00","slug":"a-cap-is-not-a-valuation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/a-cap-is-not-a-valuation\/","title":{"rendered":"A cap is not a valuation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(apologies in advance: the content of this blog post is for startup financing geeks)<\/p>\n<p>I was having drinks with a dozen founders who should know better.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So YC company valuations are up around $10mm. \u00a0And some are $20mm+.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What!?&#8221; I exclaim. \u00a0&#8220;That&#8217;s crazy! \u00a0It&#8217;s insanely high. \u00a0And, wait&#8230; I thought YC was using convertible debt for most of their rounds?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yes, they are. \u00a0They&#8217;re doing convertible debt with a $10mm-$20mm cap.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>AARGH. \u00a0Come on. \u00a0This is bananas.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Convertible debt is a loan. \u00a0It&#8217;s a loan that converts in to equity at one of two prices: the price the next investor pays, or the price of the cap, whichever is lower. \u00a0It&#8217;s basically a postponement of a valuation exercise: it says the value now will be determined later, but will be no <em>higher<\/em> than the cap.<\/p>\n<p>You may have noticed a giant humungo discussion going on in the twittersphere (<a href=\"http:\/\/storify.com\/markury\/notes-and-signals-an-investors-debate\">Storify link<\/a>) after Mark Suster&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bothsidesofthetable.com\/2012\/09\/05\/the-truth-about-convertible-debt-at-startups-and-the-hidden-terms-you-didnt-understand\/\">insightful critique<\/a> of the financing perils of convertible debt. That&#8217;s about the appropriateness of early investors getting discounts (or lower caps), and frankly it&#8217;s way out of my league. This is about something much more basic.<\/p>\n<p>A note with a cap does not imply that the company&#8217;s value is equal to the cap. \u00a0This is easily demonstrated by a simple thought exercise.<\/p>\n<p>It is unusual but not unheard of for companies to get convertible notes without a cap. \u00a0If the cap is the valuation, then those companies are\u00a0<strong>infinitely valuable<\/strong>, since the cap is infinite. \u00a0Which is, of course, absurd.<\/p>\n<p>So what&#8217;s the valuation of a company that takes a note with a cap? \u00a0Well, you don&#8217;t know. \u00a0It&#8217;s a range &#8211; from zero, to the cap.<\/p>\n<p>Say it with me: Caps aren&#8217;t valuations.<\/p>\n<p>Carry on!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(apologies in advance: the content of this blog post is for startup financing geeks) I was having drinks with a dozen founders who should know better. &#8220;So YC company valuations are up&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-339","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-startups"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/339","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=339"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/339\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=339"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=339"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=339"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}