{"id":84,"date":"2004-10-25T09:30:06","date_gmt":"2004-10-25T16:30:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/?p=84"},"modified":"2010-05-28T02:12:07","modified_gmt":"2010-05-28T09:12:07","slug":"another-reader-question-dominoes-on-the-table","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/2004\/10\/another-reader-question-dominoes-on-the-table\/","title":{"rendered":"Another reader question: dominoes on the table"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>David Stahl gave me permission to reprint and (hopefully) answer his question here:<br \/>\n<i>I like to play games, pariticularly dominoes &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dominoes.com\/dominoinfo\/rules-intro.asp?gamename=38\">Block Style<\/a> of course.<br \/>\nI had an initial idea to make a table like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reddominotable.com\/\">this one<\/a>.  I wanted to expand the edges so they could have chip racks, and I&#8217;m still not sure what to do about cup holders.  So I got the great idea that I&#8217;d make a top with a clear coat of laquer over &#8220;stuff&#8221; I&#8217;d shellac inside &#8211; like pictures perhaps (if you&#8217;ve ever been at some cheesy bar that has all kinds of old pictures sealed in the bartop or table you&#8217;ll know what I mean).<br \/>\nSo I&#8217;m looking for a good, strong, clear sealant. You can see a blog post about it <a href=\"http:\/\/dave.dontpokeme.com\/blog\/index.php\/archives\/2004\/06\/22\/table-tops\/\">here<\/a>. I&#8217;ve found <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shopmaninc.com\/kk121.html\">Kleer Koat<\/a> which is an epoxy and pretty strong. I also found <a href=\"http:\/\/www.personal.psu.edu\/users\/s\/t\/stm134\/table.html\">this table<\/a> which uses <a href=\"http:\/\/paintprosusa.safeshopper.com\/17\/cat17.htm?163\">this stuff<\/a>.<br \/>\nMy requirements are that it stay clear for as long as possible (no yellowing), strong enough to handle some &#8220;gentle&#8221; slamming of dominoes (which usually have a metal &#8216;lump&#8217; so that they spin), spilled drinks, etc&#8230;<br \/>\nThroughout your course of woodworking, have you found or used anything similar?<br \/>\n<\/i><br \/>\nYou&#8217;ve done your homework on this, so I can only add my personal experience with a few finishes.<br \/>\n* Shellac is too soft.  You might manage it if you use natural (not blonde) shellac that&#8217;s freshly mixed, but even then, I think you&#8217;d dent it with your dominoes. Also, it will yellow, and spilled alcohol damages shellac finishes.<br \/>\n* I have experimented with exactly the goop you link to above, and it&#8217;s tough stuff.  You&#8217;ll probably dent it and scuff it, but not break it.  It&#8217;s also not difficult to refinish if it gets too beat up.  You can lay your trinkets down directly under it before you apply it. I do not believe that it will yellow.<br \/>\n* Water-based varnishes, like Minwax Polycrylic, are too soft and don&#8217;t build well.<br \/>\n* Behlen&#8217;s Rock Hard Tabletop Varnish might work, although I suspect you&#8217;ll have trouble getting it to build to the thickness you want.  It&#8217;s a classic varnish, and is extremely yellow-orange tinted, but the tint should not change over time.  This will affect the appearance of stuff underneath it.  But it will harden up as much as you could want. I&#8217;m likely going to use this over shellac for my dining room table.<br \/>\n* If it were me, I&#8217;d get a sheet of thick glass, and use the epoxy stuff underneath it to fuse it to the table &#038; buffer it underneath.  You won&#8217;t have much effect on a 3\/8 sheet of glass when you slam a domino into it, if it&#8217;s well supported underneath with something conformant.<br \/>\nGood luck with the table!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reader Question: I&#8217;m looking for a good, strong, clear sealant. My requirements are that it stay clear for as long as possible (no yellowing), strong enough to handle some &#8220;gentle&#8221; slamming of dominoes (which usually have a metal &#8216;lump&#8217; so that they spin), spilled drinks, etc&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-84","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-woodworking"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=84"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=84"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=84"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danshapiro.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=84"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}